It's not a fair comparison as MVZ doesn't have pointless topics about asking people to rate them and people starting 2 threads to promote one video. Plus MVZ doesn't have media threads (we used to, but got ratted out) where people post "thx" time and time again.
I'm not trying to be a jerk or even bashing the way you guys do things, cuz it works for you. I just think that comparing SFG and MVZ is comparing apples and oranges. Sure, we're both fruit, but we're really nothing alike.